
photo by Kevin Truong

photo by Kevin Truong

photo by Kevin Truong

photo by Kevin Truong

photo by Kevin Truong

photo by Kevin Truong

photo by Kevin Truong

photo by Kevin Truong

photo by Kevin Truong

photo by Kevin Truong

photo by Kevin Truong

photo by Kevin Truong

photo by Kevin Truong
JĂ©rĂ©mie, in his own words:Qu’est-ce qu’ĂȘtre gay signifie pour toi?
Cela ne signifie rien en particulier. Eric et moi nous nous considĂ©rons d’abord comme des ĂȘtres humains, des citoyens, des personnes engagĂ©es dans la sociĂ©tĂ© avant de nous considĂ©rer comme gay. En Europe, et en particulier dans des pays comme la Belgique, il n’y a pas ou peu de stigmatisation vis Ă vis de l’orientation sexuelle, du coup, on est libre d’ĂȘtre ce que l’on est. Nous ne ressentons plus le fait d’ĂȘtre français en Belgique que d’ĂȘtre gay parmi les hĂ©tĂ©ros ! En revanche, nous avons bien conscience que cela n’a pas Ă©tĂ© toujours le cas. Du coup, si ĂȘtre gay devait signifier quelque chose, ce serait Ă travers les combats qu’il a fallu mener pour dĂ©pĂ©naliser l’homosexualitĂ© et acquĂ©rir l’Ă©galitĂ© ! Ce combat n’est pas gagnĂ©, on l’a bien vu avec les manifestations contre le mariage gay en France. On le voit dans certains pays oĂč les gays sont pourchassĂ©s et parfois mis Ă mort. Nous avons conscience du chemin qu’il a fallu parcourir et nous avons Ă©galement conscience de l’effort quotidien qu’il faut pour maintenir nos droits.
Ă quels challenges as-tu dĂ» faire face en tant que gay ?
Les challenges sont surtout prĂ©sents et paraissent difficiles Ă surmonter quand on est jeune et quand on dĂ©couvre son homosexualitĂ©. Il y a toujours le sentiment d’ĂȘtre diffĂ©rent d’oĂč nait un sentiment de honte et d’incomprĂ©hension. Il faut savoir s’accepter comme l’on est pour aller de l’avant. Mais, avec l’expĂ©rience et l’Ăąge, qu’on soit gay, gros, moche, trop grand, trop petit, roux, frisĂ©s ou que sais-je, on doit s’accepter comme on est. C’est un chemin difficile et parfois long… parfois plus long quand on est gay ; tout dĂ©pend du milieu dans lequel on grandit.
Personnellement, j’ai mis longtemps Ă “vivre” mon homosexualitĂ© car le me sentais coupable vis Ă vis de mes parents et de mes proches. J’ai parfois entendu des remarques homophobes Ă la maison… ça ne m’incitait pas faire mon coming-out. Puis, avec le temps, on relativise et on prend de l’assurance. Plus rĂ©cemment, le plus gros challenge en tant que gay a Ă©tĂ© d’ĂȘtre papa… C’est un parcours difficile et long. Non pas sur le plan matĂ©riel, mais sur le plan de la vie et de la relation avec son partenaire. Nous avons beaucoup discutĂ© avec Eric sur nos envies, nos dĂ©sirs, notre futur, notre conception commune de la famille, etc… Puis finalement, avec le recul, ces challenges lĂ , ce n’est que la Vie !
Quelle est l’histoire de ton coming-out ?
Mon coming-out a eu lieux en plusieurs Ă©tapes…. Tout d’abord, quand j’ai commencĂ© Ă vivre sur Paris, je me suis rapidement fait des amis gays et j’ai commencĂ© Ă aller dans des bars et frĂ©quenter les quartiers gays. Socialement, j’Ă©tais de plus en plus ouvert et cela me convenait parfaitement. Puis, tout naturellement, je ne me suis plus cachĂ© vis Ă vis des collĂšgues de bureaux, mes amis d’enfances, etc… Le problĂšme c’Ă©tait ma famille ! J’ai commencĂ© Ă le dire Ă mon frĂšre lors d’une discussion anodine. Ce n’Ă©tait pas planifiĂ©, mais c’est sortie tout seul. S’en est suivie de longues annĂ©es oĂč j’ai beaucoup voyagĂ©, dĂ©mĂ©nagĂ©, vĂ©cu des histoires de couples. J’Ă©tais parfaitement bien dans mes basquets partout et avec tout le monde, sauf avec mes parents. La situation Ă©tait ridicule et surtout intenable. Ă un moment, c’Ă©tait tellement absurde que j’ai pris mon courage Ă deux mains, je n’avais plus rien Ă perdre, et j’ai tout dis Ă mes parents. Finalement, tout c’est trĂšs bien passĂ©. Nous en avons discutĂ© plusieurs fois ensemble et maintenant, ça me parait idiot d’avoir attendu tout ce temps.
à quoi ressemble la communauté gay à Brussels à tes yeux ?
Nous ne frĂ©quentons plus trop les lieux gays. De temps Ă autre on sort… mais beaucoup moins qu’avant. Du coup, nous sommes assez mal placĂ©s pour dĂ©crire parfaitement la communautĂ© ! D’une maniĂšre gĂ©nĂ©rale, la communautĂ© est paisible et surtout trĂšs diverse et bien intĂ©grĂ©e. Il y a d’un cĂŽtĂ© les bruxellois qui sont nĂ©s ou installĂ©s sur Bruxelles depuis des annĂ©es, il y a les Ă©tudiants ou les jeunes professionnels, toute la communautĂ© des expatriĂ©s, des diplomates et fonctionnaires europĂ©ens, etc. C’est une sorte de melting-pot. Parfois cela se mĂ©lange et parfois moins. Bruxelles est une ville trĂšs cosmopolite. Nous pensons que la communautĂ© est Ă son image. Cependant, les gens sont en gĂ©nĂ©ral ouverts, sympathiques et faciles d’accĂšs. Les associations prĂ©sentes ici semblent actives et font un excellent travail dans tous les domaines.
Quel conseil donneriez-vous Ă votre double plus jeune?
N’est pas peur et profite de ta jeunesse !
Comment le fait d’ĂȘtre devenu pĂšre a changĂ© ta vie?
Personnellement, ça change beaucoup, beaucoup de choses. La paternitĂ© amĂšne tellement de bonheur mais bouleverse totalement le rythme de vie. J’ai pris beaucoup de recul au niveau du travail (pour le bĂ©bĂ©, mais pas que ça) et j’ai dĂ©cidĂ© de prendre plus de temps libre pour m’occuper du petit. Ensuite il faut gĂ©rer le rythme de vie, le sommeil et toutes les tĂąches domestiques. Enfin, l’arrivĂ©e d’un bĂ©bĂ© bouleverse la vie de couple. MĂȘme si nous en avions beaucoup parlĂ© avec Eric, vivre l’arrivĂ©e d’un bĂ©bĂ© est tout autre chose ! Mais finalement, en discutant avec d’autres parents… c’est exactement pareil partout ! CĂŽtĂ© social, nos amis sont tous trĂšs heureux pour nous, mĂȘme si c’est un peu plus difficile d’organiser un apĂ©ro en fin de soirĂ©e…”
In English:
“(Being gay) does not mean anything in particular. Eric and I consider ourselves first as human beings, citizens, people involved in society, before we consider ourselves as gay. In Europe, and particularly in countries like Belgium, there is little or no stigma against sexual orientation, it is free to be what it is. We feel more being French in Belgium than being gay in a straight world! However, we are aware of the fact that this was not always the case. Consequently, whether being gay meant something, this would be through the battles that were needed in order to decriminalise homosexuality and acquire equality! This fight is not over, we just have to look at what happened with the protests against gay marriage in France. We see in certain countries where gay men and lesbians are murdered and tortured. We are aware of what had to be done and we are also aware of the daily effort to keep our rights.
The challenges are particularly present and seem difficult to overcome when you are young and you discover your own homosexuality. There is always a sense of being different from which accrues feelings of shame and incomprehension. Whether it should be accepted as it is to go ahead. But, with experience and age, being gay, large, ugly, too small or too large, red haired, curly haired or whatever, is we must accept things as there are. It is a long and sometimes difficult road… sometimes longer when being gay; Everything depends on the environment in which you come from.
It took me a while to happily âliveâ my homosexuality as I felt guilty towards myself, my parents and my relatives. I have sometimes heard homophobic remarks at home… that did not help me with my coming-out. Then, with time, we become more self-confident and see the world in a different angle. More recently, the biggest challenge was to become a dad… This is such a long and complex process. Not in practical terms but in terms of living style, having a stable relationship with the right partner. We have discussed a lot with Eric on our common wishes, desires, our future, our common understanding of the family, etc. And finally, with hindsight, these challenges are only those that everyone faces in real life!
My coming-out took place in several stages…. Firstly, when I started to live in Paris, I quickly made gay friends and I started to go out in bars and be part of the community. Socially, I was increasingly open and I was perfectly fine with that. Then, naturally, I became less and less hidden vis-Ă -vis my colleagues at work, old friends, etc. The problem was my family! I started to speak to my brother during a usual lunch we used to have every Saturday. This was not planned, but it went on the table naturally. Then came many years where I have travelled a lot, moved, lived love-and-failed stories… I was perfectly balanced in my daily gay life, everywhere and with everyone, except with my parents. The situation was ridiculous and particularly untenable. At a time it was so absurd that I took my courage in both hands, I had nothing left to lose, I told my parents. Finally, it went very smoothly. We discussed it several times and now it seems stupid to me for having waited for all of that time.
We no longer go into the gay community, bars and districts. From time to time we are going out, mostly with friends… but much less than before. Consequently, we are fairly badly placed to describe fully the local community! In general, the community, here in Brussels, is peaceful and, above all, very diverse and well integrated. You can see, on one hand, people who were born or raised in Brussels, being there for years, then you have students or young professionals, the whole expat community, diplomats and officials from the European Institutions, etc. It is a kind of melting-pot. Sometimes, it is mixed and sometimes not. Brussels is a very cosmopolitan city. We think that the community is as its image. However, people are in general open, friendly and easily accessible. The associations represented here seem active and are doing an excellent job in all domains.
(Advice to my younger self) Don’t be afraid, live and enjoy your youth!
Personally speaking, (being a father) changes dramatically your life. Paternity brings so much happiness but completely disrupt the rhythm of life. I took a step down at working level because of the baby, in order to be more present and take more care of him and of myself. Then you need to manage the pace of your daily life, have some sleep and do all your domestic work. Finally, the arrival of a baby also overturns the couple’s living balance. Even though I lengthily talked about that with Eric, the arrival of a baby is anything else you previously have imagined! However, discussing with other parents… it is exactly as such everywhere! Our friends are all very glad for us, even if it is slightly more difficult to organise a dinner party or to go out for drinks in late evening…
Eric, in his own words: “Ă quels challenges as-tu dĂ» faire face en tant que gay ?
Je dois avouer que je me considĂšre comme un privilĂ©giĂ© quant Ă mon homosexualitĂ© et ce quâelle a pu impliquer dans ma vie jusquâĂ prĂ©sent. Je nâai jamais ou quasi jamais Ă©tĂ© confrontĂ© Ă lâhomophobie jusqu’Ă ces derniĂšres annĂ©es, ma famille et mes parents plus particuliĂšrement sont des gens ouverts sur le monde et qui ont acceptĂ© mon homosexualitĂ© avant mĂȘme que je fasse mon coming-out, je vis dans des pays oĂč, comme le disait trĂšs justement JĂ©rĂ©mie, les choses sont plutĂŽt simples Ă ce niveau⊠Donc je nâai pas eu de gros challenges. Ăvidemment, jâai eu une pĂ©riode vers les 20 ans oĂč jâai dĂ» admettre, aprĂšs quelques Ă©checs avec les filles, que jâĂ©tais homo, et ce cheminement mâa pris environ 2 ans. Le seul gros challenge a Ă©tĂ©, vers lâarrivĂ©e de ma trentaine, de me dire « tu es pĂ©dĂ©, donc tu ne seras pas papa parce que les pĂ©dĂ©s ça fait pas des enfants ». Ăa a Ă©tĂ© trĂšs long et douloureux pour moi dâadmettre ça⊠pour finalement me rendre compte, suite Ă ma rencontre avec JĂ©rĂ©mie, que je nâavais pas abandonnĂ© et que les choses sont parfaitement possibles. Et aujourdâhui, nous sommes papas et câest gĂ©nial.
Quelle est l’histoire de ton coming-out ?
Il a Ă©tĂ© long mĂȘme si ma famille ne me posait pas de questions et que je me doutais bien que ma mĂšre avait compris. Mais comme dit avant, admettre au grand jour mon homosexualitĂ©, câĂ©tait aussi envoyer Ă mes parents le message « vous ne serez pas grands-parents ». Alors pendant plusieurs annĂ©es jâai vĂ©cu cette double vie. Pendant 2 ans mĂȘme jâai vĂ©cu avec un mec et quand mes parents venaient me rendre visite, il devait sortir, cacher ses affaires. Lorsque nous avons rompu, je me suis dit que je ne pouvais plus continuer ainsi car câĂ©tait cruel autant pour moi que pour les autres. Jâai donc dĂ©cidĂ© de le dire Ă ma mĂšre que jâai invitĂ© Ă dĂ©jeuner. Je nâai pas eu besoin de finir ma phrase quâelle me disait dĂ©jĂ quâelle savait depuis que jâĂ©tais petit et que, si au dĂ©but câĂ©tait dur, aujourdâhui elle Ă©tait parfaitement en harmonie avec cela et quâelle Ă©tait soulagĂ©e que je le lui dise enfin! Elle mâa poussĂ© ensuite Ă le dire Ă mon pĂšre et un dimanche, au repas de famille, elle mâa balancĂ© tout tranquillement « au fait, je lâai dit Ă ton pĂšre puisque tu nâarrivais pas Ă te lancer ». Jâai failli tomber de ma chaise. Je suis donc allĂ© voir mon pĂšre et avant que je dise quelque chose, il mâa pris dans ses bras. Et voilĂ , mon coming-out Ă©tait fait.
Quel conseil donneriez-vous Ă votre double plus jeune?
Tu es ce que tu es, alors sois fier et avance!
Comment le fait d’ĂȘtre devenu pĂšre a changĂ© ta vie?
Disons que câest comme une explosion nuclĂ©aire dans ta vie. Tu as beau ĂȘtre prĂ©parĂ© à ça, câest incroyable le bouleversement que ça produit aussi bien dans ton quotidien, ton rythme de vie, que dans ce que tu peux ressentir intĂ©rieurement. Jâai le sentiment que toutes mes Ă©motions sont dĂ©cuplĂ©es, les joies comme les stresses ou les difficultĂ©s. Ătre pĂšre est le plus grand bonheur de ma vie, un bonheur qui se renouvelle dans chaque sourire de notre fils. Ăa donne aussi un sens nouveau Ă la vie, une nouvelle façon de voir lâavenir mais aussi de relire le passĂ©. Jâai lâimpression que tout prend son sens finalement, que le passĂ© prend un sens. Et si ça rend le futur plus flou parfois je trouve, ça le rend aussi plus optimiste, plein de vie, dâespoir, dâenvies et de motivation. Devenir pĂšre mâa rendu encore plus humain au sens de « je fais partie de la communautĂ© humaine avant de faire partie de la communautĂ© gay ». Je suis fier dâĂȘtre gay, mais je suis encore plus fier dâĂȘtre papa et (futur) mari de JĂ©rĂ©mie.”
In English:
“I must confess that I consider myself privileged with regard to my homosexuality and what it could have meant in my life so far. I have never or almost never been confronted with homophobia until recent years, my family and my parents in particular are open to the world and have accepted my homosexuality even before I made my coming-out. I lived in countries where, as Jeremie said previously, itâs fairly straightforward at this level… so I did not have major challenges. Of course, I had a period around my 20’s where I had to admit, after a few failures with girls, that I was gay, and this process took me about 2 years. The only major challenge has been the arrival of my 30’s, when I said to myself âyou’re a fag, therefore you will never become dad because gays don’t have children!”. It was very long and painful for me to accept that… ultimately I realized, thanks to my relationship with Jeremie, that I had not abandoned this idea of being a father and that things are perfectly possible nowadays. And today we dads and that’s just great.
(Coming out) had been long, even though my family did not raise this issues and despite the fact I was thinking that my mother had understood. However, as said before by Jeremie, accepting yourself as gay was just to send a negative message to my parents: âyou will never be grandparents!â. Then, I lived for several years this double life. For 2 years I lived with a guy and when my parents came to visit me, he had to leave, and get rid of his stuff and hide it. When we broke-up, I said to myself that I could no longer continue to live in such a way because it was as cruel for me than for my friends. I had therefore decided to speak to my mother and I had invited her for lunch. I did not need to finish my sentence, she told me that she was aware since I was little and, of course it was hard for her at the beginning, but now she was perfectly in harmony with it and she was relieved that I have finally come out! This encouraged me to speak to my father and on a Sunday family lunch, my mother just said âOh, by the way, I told your father since you were not able to do so!” I was just close to fall out of my chair. Later on, I discussed with my father and before I was able to say something, he took me into his arms. And here was my coming-out.
(Advice to my younger self) You are what you are, then be proud and go ahead!
Let’s say that (being a father) is as a nuclear explosion in your life. You may be prepared for this, it is an incredible change in both your lives and what you can feel deeply. I feel that my emotions are increased tenfold, it is the same with my joys, my stresses or with my own difficulties. Being a father is the greatest happiness of my life, happiness to be boosted in each smile of our son. It also gives a new meaning to life, a new way to see the future but also to refer back to the past. I have the feeling that all happened to me, finally, makes a new sense. And when it makes the future more blurred sometimes I find it makes it also more optimistic, full of life, hope, desires and motivation. Becoming a father has made me even more human at the meaning of âI am part of the human community before being part of the gay communityâ. I am proud to be gay, but I am even more proud to be daddy and (future) husband of JĂ©rĂ©mie.”